And so it helped me to put voice to the kinds of questions I was trying to answer. And so when I talk about what, like 90s hip hop did is that it was a soundtrack that reflected that things were going on in my community.

Yeah, I wanted to kind of give myself space to do my own, do the work that I felt like God had called me to do. I mean, what I wanted to do, I began to book that way intentionally, because I wanted people to think this is a different kind of theology book. What did 90s hip hop teach you about? biblical interpretation? the black community? And I loved how you weave that in So, so I thought I’d kind of start with a question. I was like, I think we had some similar, you know, similar music tastes happening in the 90s. And what the Bible has to say to us and I, I love at the beginning of your book, and in that initial chapter, your your nod to 90s hip hop, so so I’m, I’m a product of the 90s as well, I felt well as I was reading it. Yeah, through the lens of biblical interpretation. Really excited to have you on the show and excited to kind of continue this conversation on on race and particularly with your book. McCauley, thank you so much for joining us on the show. McCoy has such a powerful voice in this conversation.

Esau McCauley professor of New Testament at Wheaton College, and author of reading while black, African American biblical interpretation as an exercise in hope. And I’m so excited to be able to sit down with Dr. Welcome to Jessup think I’m your host, Mark Moore. Institute for Biodiversity and the Environment.

Reading the bible while black